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1- "We hate how communists sacrifice the individual in name of the group. That's why we do the exact same thing to gay people."

2- "Homosexuality isn't natural!" [is told it is] "Ah, but we shouldn't follow animals!"

3- [Random passage about Jesus' psychotic outbursts] "You're taking things out of context!" [then proceeds to use biblical passages against homosexuality without considering the cultural meaning]

4- "Pride is a sin!" [then proceeds to use "I'm proud to be a christian!"]

5- "We respect free will! That's why we prevent gay marriage from even being a possibility!"

6- "You heathens act so holier than thou, thinking you know the truth! That's why we are the chosen ones, and you're only going to be saved if you think exactly like us!"

7- "We must do charity! That's why we just pray istead of donating like those heathens do!"

8- "You totally shouldn't lump us with Tomás de Torquemada! That's why we lump all non-christian people in the same pile of evil heathens!"

9- "Haha, you think you can justify racism by saying you have black friends?" [then proceeds to justify homophobia by claiming to have gay friends]

10- "Our religion is totally not a lifestyle! Your incurable sexuality, on the other hand, totally is!"
The more you know
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gigantala Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012
You didn't even link to a rebuttal of my claims. What do you hope to accomplish, besides just reminding me why I wrote this?
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TrickyCreature Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
That's so 100% totally right!
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HonkIfYoureAGiraffe Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Your first point could not be more ironic. Keep trying, but I think you'll find that people are people, regardless of anything.
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PaulnFortWorth Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
I'm a christian, so what?
If you're gay, who cares?
If you commit a sin, it's not my business.
If I commit a sin, it's none of your business.
Plenty of people go to church, so what?
Plenty of people don't go to church, so what?
If a person is straight, gay, bi, confused or apathetic, it doesn't mean anything. It really isn't important enough to care about. It doesn't matter. It carries as much importance as being a vegetarian.
DON'T SWEAT THE SMALL SHIT !
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litolic Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
You're not a christian then. Your book says homosexuality is an abomination. You dont believe in the bible, therefore you are not a christian.
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Relixala Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
First of all, I'm not going to argue with or insult you because that's more than likely what you want me to do.
Or there is someone else watching the comments waiting for someone to do so. So instead, I'm simply going to put forth my own opinion, and I'll do my best not to make any judgments as to who is right and who is wrong.

To start with, I happen to be a person who does not believe in arbitrarily placing people in groups based on sexuality, personality, habits or interests. I'm not quite comfortable just lumping religious groups together, because in every religion there tends to be smaller facets and denominations. So you'll rarely if ever find me referring to every person who calls him or herself "Christian" or "atheist" or "Muslim" or what have you as simply "the Christians," "the atheists," or "the Muslims." Every person is individual and should be treated as such.
So obviously, not every Christian person believes these things you've pointed out about every gay person.
I won't deny that there are Christians who fit your descriptions exactly, but there are hypocrites and hateful people everywhere, unfortunately.

I am not an advocate for much of anything except for the philosophies of love and imagining other people as the complex individuals that they are, and not just paper-thin masks that fit whatever situation a person wants to place them in.
I realize that your motives for writing this probably come from some very negative experiences you have had, which makes me very sorry, and I hope you can meet decent people who might even be Christians.
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SilverSongAlchemist Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
i am christian
i dont have anything against the gays
some of my closer friends are gay
i dont shove my religion down others throats
i encourage whatever they believe in
I dont believe I'm holier than anyone
theres actually other religions who are closer to God than my own
I don't point out sins
if i do im usually talking about FullMetal Alchemist or story ideas
these kinds of christians actually make me really mad because of how fake they are
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froggyc1123 Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Why is it always christians that are being lumped together like this? not all christians think that way and you are doing the same thing to christians as you say they are doing to others by saying what you are. you are being just as hypocritical.
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Miintsy Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Student Digital Artist
It would have been better had you chosen another title than this, since I am a Christian myself, and I certainly do not have anything against homosexuals. It's slightly offending that you generalize the people that practice Christianity as homophobes and hypocrites. I know certain Christians say these things, but not all. So please, before you stereotype the whole Christian community, please get to know us better. Even though we practice the same religion, we all have different beliefs, and doesn't mean we think the same way. Next time, please don't judge if you don't know all the facts. Although I don't disagree with the fact that some ARE hypocrites.
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MinC1 Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
And as an add on: Point #10 I found quite surprising, seeing as how most of the gay people I know have always shared with me that "their sexuality is their lifestyle and not separate", so when they hear "hate the sin and not the sinner", they can't accept that because they don't separate their lifestyle from their sexuality. Funny how I'm hearing just the opposite here. Wonder what these friends will say to that when I share with them. Interesting.
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gigantala Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
Sexualty is an intricate part of personality. Straight males, for example, go to all those legnths to prove they're straight and all.
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MinC1 Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012
I agree its intricate, but while part of what makes me me, it doesn't rule my life or the choices I make concerning how I live that life. If it did I'd be judging everyone based on their sexuality. Personally, what's important to me is the person, not what their sexual orientation is. I am so many other things than just my sexuality. If there are others that can't, or choose not to separate the two, I believe they are shortchanging themselves, because they then force others to view them in no other light than this. And everyone has so many facets to themselves - it would be like asking someone to look at only one facet of a diamond to view it's qualities, rather than looking at the whole gem, seeing its sparkle and color - what a dull flat personality we would all then be.
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MinC1 Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
The behavior you say you see in the Christians you know is not Christian at all. There are hypocrites in all walks of life, including homosexuals, atheists, Christians, etc. True Christianity is quite often twisted by those calling themselves "Christians", when in fact they haven't a clue what true Christianity is about. And so many people are so quick to jump on the bandwagon and point a finger and say, wow, those few hypocritical "Christians" are horrible, therefore the religion must be as well. Get to know some true Christians before you judge, as you accuse others of doing. As for the rest of your comments above, I don't understand clearly what most of it is you are saying, point by point, but the gist of it I believe, especially point #3, I can only say the Christians I hang with do their best to not twist the Bible to their own ends, nor take things out of context. Perhaps you should find different Christians to observe before you judge us all as hypocritical, judgemental crazies. You would be most welcome in our church. As for #9, yes God says homosexuality is an abomination, however, He loves each and every one of us equally, and provides a way for us all to enter heaven. It's your choice to accept or reject Him, it is not His choice to deny you everlasting life. Nor is it a real Christians right to spread hypocricy about our faith. Shame on them. But please don't judge us all for their failures, and please don't be one of those people who spread falsehoods about us either, as is apparently being done by your posting. Thank you.
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gigantala Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
Scottman's fallacy. Accusing others of not being "true christians" is not a decent way of dealing with this, considering nobody follows Jesus as he wished anyways.

Also, read this:

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MinC1 Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012
I'm not accusing them of not being true Christians. I am saying their behavior isn't Christian behavior. And there are some people who call themselves Christians while acting just the opposite, sometimes intentionally to give Christianity a bad name. The true Christian is someone who is trying their best to live their lives in a way that emulates Jesus as best they can considering they are (as are we all), human and flawed. I have met people like this. Jesus knew it would be a hard road to walk, which is why we can only try with a sincere heart, and ask Him to forgive our shortcomings along the way. I will read the link you gave, and if you like discuss it with you, but haven't as yet. Just wanted to clarify my statement. Accusing another of not being a true Christian isn't what I said or meant, also it has nothing to do with decency. It's more a matter of saying if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, swims like a duck, it's not a frog - if they are really sincere about living a Christian life and being one, you should be able to see it manifest in their lives. If they are busy saying things opposite of what Jesus taught, chances are they haven't a heart for God after all, and I'd steer clear of these types of "Christians". Just as I'd steer clear of those holier than thou...and so on.
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Journalsbyblake Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
If youve ever read the letters of Paul, youd know he says specifically to encourage homosexuals in the faith, to provide them with help and to care and love them. I would produce a verse but Im too lazy and Im not going to bother arguing. Im jsut gonna say that youre entirely wrong and have likely never paid attention to Christianity in the slighest, or are simply bitter. And bitterness, unlike homosexuality, is incurable.
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gigantala Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
Also, I call foul on the latter. Bitterness is curable, while homosexuality isn't.
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Journalsbyblake Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
That may have been a mistake on my part. Homosexuality hardly requires a 'cure.'
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gigantala Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
Care to hang out with the christians I do. All displays of "love" are holier than thou sociopathy.
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MinC1 Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012
Perhaps, as mentioned above, you would be better off hanging with some other Christians for a while, if only to get a different perspective of Christians in general?
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Journalsbyblake Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Im not denying theres Christians who believe so. I just uploaded my thesis on the topic, if you care, give it a read and offer me some feedback.
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JakeKrystar Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
Not all christians have a "holier than thou" behavior, but this is quite accurate on some points.
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Minioa Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
I have seen this not only in the behaviour of christian people but in the behaviour of religious people. It says I BELIEVE in God because no one actually can say if there is such a thing as a God. So just try to be openminded and show respect to all kinds of religion I believe that this would make the world a better place.
Yay go internet start to hate me for saying that...
And no I don't want to offend anyone for anything. I just don't like being told in what I should believe...
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LadyQueenBee Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Not very many christians are like this, at least the ones I know. The living waters church is pretty homophobic and fits these descriptions though.
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nicetints Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Most old people as well as a great majority of Southerners are, at least from my experience.
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LadyQueenBee Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I see.
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Tarturus Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
So very true.
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